Tactician is worst when you have very strong trashing and/or deck draw. Bank grows tremendously in power (and gets the +Buy it so desperately needs). It is absolutely critical for this engine to keep drawing that second Tactician. Then you can still get to 8$ and have a card left to discard. When simultaneous things happen to 2 different players, they resolve in player order starting with the current player. You still need to worry about not drawing the second Tactician, but your ability to hit 8 doesn’t diminish. No? It allows you to play another Action card from your hand twice, as if you had a Village and two copies of that Action card. I also like Minion a lot with double tactictian. I am not sure, but at the very least it is not obvious. (Of course the article points out that unusually big decks might need a second Tactician, so maybe this is just a question of how big is “unusual”.). (A side note on Golem: although it’s possible to use it to get multiple Tacticians in play, for up to +50 Cards/+10 Actions/+10 Buys the next turn, in practice Golem simply does not work with Tactician.). And as you start to green, the chance that you miss that second Tactician grows. I have a tac, two mandarins, two oases, and two golems in a 10 card hand. I nearly TRed a Tactician in Iso, not for any particular reason, I just had nothing else to TR, but I wasn't sure how it would deal with it, and wanted to be sure I could draw it on the next turn. An early Tactician can be a safe way of bootstrapping to a gold. It’s a waste to spend extra turns building up your money to a level you don’t need. May be redeemed for guerdon. Tactician TypeAction - Duration EffectDiscard your hand. Either a 10-card hand OR trashing all the starting cards works for getting the card combos you want in hand, but both is overkill. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. But maybe someone clever will see an application. Vault/Secret Chamber have more to discard. Use Tactician to backdoor into a Treasure Map activation, or play multiple Barons a turn, or connect your Fool’s Golds: all things that are much easier to do when you have 10 cards to work with instead of just 5. Similarly, opening Tactician/Secret Chamber will nearly always get you a Platinum. Nice article! You basically just spam the most expensive card you can buy, up to about 2 or 3 tacs, then you pretty much get a province every other turn. I guess if you’re really on the fence between single-Tac and another strategy (especially one that’s super-reliable in the endgame like Jack of All Trades) I can see where this might tip the scales? So you have three options: Some things to keep in mind as you build this engine: As with most engines, double-Tac can be beaten in very fast sets (e.g., Governor, which can seriously slow you down by force-feeding you Silvers) and sets with Cursers, which will clog up your deck too much to reliably trigger the double-Tac. And what if Tactician DOES miss the reshuffle? Tactician can be an annoying card. So, if you play Tactician but do not discard any cards, it will have no effect on your next turn and should be discarded during the same turn's Clean-up phase. Like all Duration cards, Tactician only stays in play during your Clean-up phase if it will do something in a future turn. The tunnels allow you to gain one, two, even more golds in a turn where you are discarding the hand, often before your deck would be able to get to $6. This is good when you have a bad hand, or a reduced hand, but not good when you draw the Tactician with all your Platinums. Half the time it isn’t that bad since it already drew so many cards that the next reshuffle is near. If you discarded any cards this way, then at the start of your next turn, +5 Cards, +1 Buy, and +1 Action. Change ). It is also not really related to Throne Room/Tactician. I don't see how TR-Outpost could cause you to draw three cards twice; the three-cards instruction on the card is "in this turn's cleanup phase", and that pretty clearly doesn't make you draw three cards in the cleanup phase of any turn other than the one in which you played the Outpost. I opened with workshop+quarry, which enabled me to get lots of tunnels very fast, and buy the tactician cheap and fast (as well as get a second tactician easily). Play Black Market and use it to play your Treasures. Great article, thanks! Tactician doesn’t technically “solve” this problem, but it sure makes it a lot easier to link up combo pieces. http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Combo:_Black_Market_and_Tactician&oldid=19600, Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial Share Alike. Topic: Throne Room - Tactician (Read 10506 times), Quote from: guided on August 09, 2011, 12:16:38 pm, http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=262.0, Quote from: AJD on September 03, 2011, 10:52:33 am.
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